When will the means of production in the United States be nationalized under the control of the working class?

I'm hearing very positive things from my conservative friends about Obama but are they correct? Many conservative Americans I know say Obama is a socialist so I was wondering. Do I still have time to immigrate before the revolution is finalized?When will the means of production in the United States be nationalized under the control of the working class?
Oh JGF, come on. Don't tell me that you truly believe that the dictionary definition of Socialism or what your Marxist professors taught you is all that socialism is made of.





Nationalizing the banking system is Socialistic in nature.





Propping up failing companies with tax-payer funds and taking tacit control of said companies is Socialistic in nature.





Isn't it possible that these ideologies evolve become an amalgamation of ideologies.





Or is it only the textbook definition that applies.





Keynesian economics is socialistic in nature, not full-blown socialism but certainly not the laissez-fare economics this nation was founded on and excelled with for decades.





edit: Yeah JGF, I got booted you told me it would happen, pissed me off losing a top contributor level 7 account with such great contacts to some phucking troll, so I stayed away for awhile but I'M BACK sporatically.





edit: I fully understand your idyllic outlook on socialism and the fact that most Americans know nothing about it and you are certainly better versed on the subject than I. But in the bottom line we are talking about the community or group taking precedence over the individual and that's ok for Europe but America was built on rugged individualism. As our greatest American said;





';If we are made in some degree for others, yet in a greater are we made for ourselves. It were contrary to feeling, and indeed ridiculous, to suppose that a man has less right to himself than one of his neighbors, or indeed all of them put together. This would be slavery, and not that liberty which the bill of rights has made inviolable, and for the preservation of which our government has been charged.'; 鈥擳homas Jefferson





No matter how noble it may be to share in the productivity of others to raise people above their station it is not liberty, it is not freedom (not that I am claiming that this is what we have now but it was once and that is what I fight for daily) and that's all your conservative friends want is a bit of liberty.





So is Obammy a Socialist, no his is the same Corporate fascist that Bush was and Clinton was and Reagan was but do the labels really matter at the end of the day? Really?





';The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.'; 鈥擱obert A HeinleinWhen will the means of production in the United States be nationalized under the control of the working class?
If that were to happen at all, it would require the election of Bernie Sanders to the presidency, along with a huge leftward shift of Congress. Just because we have Democrats doesn't mean we're anything but centrist or ';librettos.'; Dennis Kucinich is about as far left as the party goes, and the only reason he appears to be a ';radical'; to some is that he has stayed put while most of the others got caught up in an eastward gale.
Obama is a Socialist only in the fact that he is Fascist, or right-wing Socialist. The means of production will be greatly put under the control of the government, not labor. Can everyone say, ';Thanks, bailout?';
Right after the Revolution. And you still have time to get here, you wouldn't want to miss out on the fun, would you?
Never, have you met the American working class!
I've been wondering that myself for a while now.





We're seeing a much closer to return to the days of Joseph McCarthy..
I am waiting on my answer.